T'Mahk Too - Comments on On Not Knowing ... http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html It's been a hard day. A lot of crying, mostly when I was alone. Extra salty shower and all that. The simple update is there's not much new information. I still have some light bleeding. It might even be lighter... en-gb Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:50:49 -0500 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:28:39 -0500 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=4.21-en kim@andfam.net 180 By Becky I have said it before and I will say it again, I really truly love you my dear friend. Our family continues to pray for you and the GL in this situation. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46840 46840:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I have said it before and I will say it again, I really truly love you my dear friend. Our family continues to pray for you and the GL in this situation.

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:17:24 -0500 By For a Season Oh Kim, our prayers are with you. Our whole family is praying. Psalm 145:18 The Lord is near to all who call on him,to all who call on him in truth. Know that God is near to you and will give you the wisdom that you need in this situation. ((Hugs)) Valeri http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46843 46843:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Oh Kim, our prayers are with you. Our whole family is praying.

Psalm 145:18 The Lord is near to all who call on him,to all who call on him in truth.

Know that God is near to you and will give you the wisdom that you need in this situation. ((Hugs))
Valeri

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:46:46 -0500 By Leigh Still praying here, too. I did get medical intervention when faced with the same situation, but mainly because I had problem pregnancies anyway (high blood pressure every time, blood clotting disorders, premature births...this is why my husband has declared us done having children. Sigh.) The only time I came close to your situation was when I was bleeding, and went in for an ultrasound and found a heartbeat...but kept bleeding anyway. The not knowing what in the world was going on about drove me nuts. So...my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'll continue obsessively checking your blog for updates. {{{{{{hugs}}}}}} http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46844 46844:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Still praying here, too. I did get medical intervention when faced with the same situation, but mainly because I had problem pregnancies anyway (high blood pressure every time, blood clotting disorders, premature births...this is why my husband has declared us done having children. Sigh.) The only time I came close to your situation was when I was bleeding, and went in for an ultrasound and found a heartbeat...but kept bleeding anyway. The not knowing what in the world was going on about drove me nuts. So...my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'll continue obsessively checking your blog for updates. {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:49:32 -0500 By Barbie Kim, Believe me I know how you are feeling. I can honestly say that going with the whole medical route didn't do anything to help me out. It gave me some false hope, and then I found out I had miscarried from the last ultrasound. So then I had to sit around and wait for everything to finish, and that was awful too. Not that I really think you're miscarrying. My uterus was soft, not firm. So, I'm saying that all that medical intervention isn't always helpful, because they don't know anything but what they see on the screen at tht moment. At this stage, they couldn't do anything to help. I think your best bet is to lay down, read your Bible, and talk to your kids. I love you and am praying for you. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46865 46865:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Kim,
Believe me I know how you are feeling. I can honestly say that going with the whole medical route didn't do anything to help me out. It gave me some false hope, and then I found out I had miscarried from the last ultrasound. So then I had to sit around and wait for everything to finish, and that was awful too. Not that I really think you're miscarrying. My uterus was soft, not firm.

So, I'm saying that all that medical intervention isn't always helpful, because they don't know anything but what they see on the screen at tht moment. At this stage, they couldn't do anything to help. I think your best bet is to lay down, read your Bible, and talk to your kids.

I love you and am praying for you.

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:26:26 -0500 By karen Kim, We'll are praying for you too. Keep going back to your #1 and #2 comments listed on the blog. Go back to them every minute if you have to and keep reminding yourself of the truth of God and the wisdom of following your husband's lead. Karen http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46878 46878:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Kim,

We'll are praying for you too. Keep going back to your #1 and #2 comments listed on the blog. Go back to them every minute if you have to and keep reminding yourself of the truth of God and the wisdom of following your husband's lead.

Karen

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:49:59 -0500 By Karen W Kim, you are in my prayers. I am glad the verses that I posted on my blog about a very different subject are an encouragement to you. You can rejoice that we have a God Who cares so very deeply about what is going on in our lives. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46890 46890:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Kim, you are in my prayers. I am glad the verses that I posted on my blog about a very different subject are an encouragement to you. You can rejoice that we have a God Who cares so very deeply about what is going on in our lives.

]]> Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:17:40 -0500 By melissa oh kim, your thoughts are almost exactly what i was going through recently during my at home miscarriage. knowing my baby had died though was different, but not knowing when i would start bleeding, how much it would hurt, whether i would need medical assistance or even a d & c. all those fears tumbled around in my head. i was in constant prayer. it was the only thing that kept me semi normal. i know and you know that God's plan is not to harm us. i keep praying for you and hoping that this is just a pregnancy similar to your other one and everything is ok. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46895 46895:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ oh kim, your thoughts are almost exactly what i was going through recently during my at home miscarriage. knowing my baby had died though was different, but not knowing when i would start bleeding, how much it would hurt, whether i would need medical assistance or even a d & c. all those fears tumbled around in my head. i was in constant prayer. it was the only thing that kept me semi normal.

i know and you know that God's plan is not to harm us. i keep praying for you and hoping that this is just a pregnancy similar to your other one and everything is ok.

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:34:47 -0500 By Staci casting all your care upon Him; for He careth for you... you have such an amazing perspective, kim. just keep leaning on your husband as you wait for the Lord's timing. i am praying that you will be continually upheld by His grace and that you will get answers soon. *hugs* http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46896 46896:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ casting all your care upon Him; for He careth for you...

you have such an amazing perspective, kim. just keep leaning on your husband as you wait for the Lord's timing. i am praying that you will be continually upheld by His grace and that you will get answers soon.

*hugs*

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:48:07 -0500 By Robin I am praying for you to have a peace that passes all understanding and, like you said, that He'll help you turn to Him, even when it's hard. (((((Kim))))) http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46898 46898:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I am praying for you to have a peace that passes all understanding and, like you said, that He'll help you turn to Him, even when it's hard.

(((((Kim)))))

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:52:56 -0500 By Amy I saw your link on Staci's site and I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through...I will be praying for you tonight. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c46913 46913:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I saw your link on Staci's site and I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through...I will be praying for you tonight.

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:39:37 -0500 By Eowyn Honey, you have my prayers, too. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47100 47100:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Honey, you have my prayers, too.

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:29:12 -0500 By kelly just had a random thought last night as I drifted off to sleep: I wonder if the local Crisis Pregnancy Center can help? I say that because our local CPC is directed by a woman at our church, and when she found out I was having twins she encouraged me several times that if I ever felt overwhelmed or scared, before or after the babies were born, that she and the organization was there to help.... and every time I said "well I don't really feel like those services are there for me, Daniel and I are doing fine" she politely but firmly disagreed, saying they were there for any crisis (emotional, spiritual, financial, physical) in any pregnancy. She told me about the moms support groups, about the free maternity and baby clothes, about the prayer group, etc. I'm guessing that any CPC regularly arranges for ultrasounds for women who need them, who do not (and may not plan to) have regular doctor visits. So they may know of some doctors who would be more willing to help you....? Anyways, the women at the CPC would be trained not to judge other women for making what they consider to be poor choices, so even if they considered a home birth or a midwife a "poor choice" they'd have to realize that it's a lot less of a poor choice than what the regularly deal with so they probably wouldn't be judgmental or angry with you, and I'm guessing they might want to help you and get you what you need, whether it's an ultrasound or a shoulder to cry on while you wait. Just a thought... still praying :o) http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47109 47109:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ just had a random thought last night as I drifted off to sleep: I wonder if the local Crisis Pregnancy Center can help?

I say that because our local CPC is directed by a woman at our church, and when she found out I was having twins she encouraged me several times that if I ever felt overwhelmed or scared, before or after the babies were born, that she and the organization was there to help.... and every time I said "well I don't really feel like those services are there for me, Daniel and I are doing fine" she politely but firmly disagreed, saying they were there for any crisis (emotional, spiritual, financial, physical) in any pregnancy. She told me about the moms support groups, about the free maternity and baby clothes, about the prayer group, etc.

I'm guessing that any CPC regularly arranges for ultrasounds for women who need them, who do not (and may not plan to) have regular doctor visits. So they may know of some doctors who would be more willing to help you....? Anyways, the women at the CPC would be trained not to judge other women for making what they consider to be poor choices, so even if they considered a home birth or a midwife a "poor choice" they'd have to realize that it's a lot less of a poor choice than what the regularly deal with so they probably wouldn't be judgmental or angry with you, and I'm guessing they might want to help you and get you what you need, whether it's an ultrasound or a shoulder to cry on while you wait. Just a thought...

still praying :o)

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:58:20 -0500 By Moogie & Poppie I like both Kelly and Karen's thoughts. At this point I think resting, relying on God's guidance is hard cause we all want more information. I also thought of CPC guessing they have best info on ultrasounds and Dr.s during difficult pregancys - besides you know that their efforts are to honor God too! Moog http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47141 47141:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I like both Kelly and Karen's thoughts.
At this point I think resting, relying on God's guidance is hard cause we all want more information.
I also thought of CPC guessing they have best info on ultrasounds and Dr.s during difficult pregancys - besides you know that their efforts are to honor God too!
Moog

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:01:51 -0500 By Mama Mia Know that I am praying for you and your family today. It is so yucky outside that it may be hard to keep your spirits up, but God is good...all the time. I understand what you are saying about medical knowledge and doctors. When I was pregnant with Grayson, the doctors kept wanting us to have ultrasound after ultrasound because they would think they saw something abnormal. We finally had to say enough is enough. We trust God for whatever outcome. I think they were doing it to make sure they covered all the bases to protect themselves from lawsuits, but I think they also think that knowledge is power...the more you know, the better. Well, we have One who is All-knowing, and He's the best knowledge we can have! Praying, Erin http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47170 47170:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Know that I am praying for you and your family today. It is so yucky outside that it may be hard to keep your spirits up, but God is good...all the time.

I understand what you are saying about medical knowledge and doctors. When I was pregnant with Grayson, the doctors kept wanting us to have ultrasound after ultrasound because they would think they saw something abnormal. We finally had to say enough is enough. We trust God for whatever outcome. I think they were doing it to make sure they covered all the bases to protect themselves from lawsuits, but I think they also think that knowledge is power...the more you know, the better. Well, we have One who is All-knowing, and He's the best knowledge we can have!

Praying, Erin

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:20:54 -0500 By Peggy "Yes" and "No" are easy. It's "Wait" that's the kicker. I believe God's "Wait" answers are part of the refining fire He uses on our works to prove our faith. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47198 47198:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ "Yes" and "No" are easy. It's "Wait" that's the kicker. I believe God's "Wait" answers are part of the refining fire He uses on our works to prove our faith.

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:43:31 -0500 By Betsy Amen, Peggy. You couldn't have said it better. We are in a "wait" mode now, too...for different reasons...and it's never easy. We want answers, and we want them now. We want God to teach us patience...and we want it RIGHT NOW! Hang on. Betsy http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47214 47214:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Amen, Peggy. You couldn't have said it better. We are in a "wait" mode now, too...for different reasons...and it's never easy. We want answers, and we want them now. We want God to teach us patience...and we want it RIGHT NOW!

Hang on.

Betsy

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:53:22 -0500 By April I don't like "wait" either. I'm living "wait" right now re: moving to the farmhouse, and I'm not dealing with it as well as I should. Praying, Kim. Crying with you. Besides knowing about Drs who might help, our CPC just added an ultrasound machine. Perhaps a CPC near you has one, too? You could talk with them about looking for a heartbeat maybe? http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47266 47266:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I don't like "wait" either. I'm living "wait" right now re: moving to the farmhouse, and I'm not dealing with it as well as I should.

Praying, Kim. Crying with you.

Besides knowing about Drs who might help, our CPC just added an ultrasound machine. Perhaps a CPC near you has one, too? You could talk with them about looking for a heartbeat maybe?

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:19:18 -0500 By UnschoolingMama I was reading your post and had the same thought as Kelly... CPC. Praying regardless. Much love, Nicole http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47280 47280:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I was reading your post and had the same thought as Kelly... CPC.

Praying regardless.
Much love,
Nicole

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:43:45 -0500 By emmaus Hi Kim, I'm sorry to read your sad news. How hard the walk in this world can be. Hold on to where you are headed. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47321 47321:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ Hi Kim, I'm sorry to read your sad news. How hard the walk in this world can be. Hold on to where you are headed.

]]> Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:51:32 -0500 By Julie in MI I'm praying for you Kim. http://andfam.net/kimblog/archives/000675.html#c47342 47342:675@http://andfam.net/kimblog/ I'm praying for you Kim.

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